![]() ![]() Unfortunately, comments like yours tend to dismissively shout down the comments from the been-there-done-that folks, and so we're locked in a particularly self-defeating Eternal September that's costing the tech industry an incalculable amount of money. My staid desire for things being built on open protocols and available to people who want to self-host it doesn't come from some hardnosed ideology, it comes from years of, "oh no, this shit again." But it's hardly the first time that some service has come along and offered advantages over the tired old thing - all except for a public, common protocol - and then decided to take their ball and go home and to hell with everyone else. There's nobody I can wag a finger at and say, "see, you didn't learn the last time 'round", because with a constant influx of new people, there's always a big group of folks that will adopt the latest thing because it's the latest thing, and have no memory of the last 30 years of latest things, and haven't been stung before when the latest thing fizzles out and takes a chunk of your time or infrastructure investment along with it. The tech industry as a whole has, over the last decade, adopted an especially frenzied pace that looks an awful lot like someone lost in the woods, freaking out, running in different directions trying to figure out where they've been and where they're supposed to be going. I wrote my first computer programs over 30 years ago, started online with local BBSs and then eWorld and then the internet. Pics wont post in rocketchat professional#I've been in technology in a professional capacity for 22 years, longer now than perhaps a few folks on HN have been alive. I'm about as good a representative sample of the people you're talking about as anyone else. It might feel good to scream out your weltschmerz, but it won't change anything. IMHO, if you want people to use anything else but slack, sticking your head in the sand and screaming "you can do all of that in IRC" won't get you anywhere and is equivalent to complaining about the very nature of humanity. Many other people seem to prefer it too, that's what matters.įor anyone who's only mildly technical, setting up IRC is only a small hurdle, but it's one of many. And it doesn't even matter that I personally prefer the slack-like UX. But the user experience will be a different one. "But you can just send images by mail!" they shout. I regularly speak to people like that, who just plain refuse (are unable?) to even see the difference between a chat like slack (or telegram, or mattermost, or or or.) where I can post images/videos inline, use proper markup etc, and a combination of IRC and email. ![]() With all the (appropriate) smugness of "I told you so" surrounding this issue, I think that many people's attitude around sticking to IRC and mail is a reason why something like slack could even take off so quickly. ![]()
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